Comments on: Conservative, Libertarian, Culture and Fusionism http://the-classic-liberal.com/conservative-libertarian-culture-fusionism/ Old Right Libertarian & Conservative Politics, Economics, and Opinion Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:59:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John Jordan http://the-classic-liberal.com/conservative-libertarian-culture-fusionism/comment-page-1/#comment-13835 John Jordan Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:50:47 +0000 http://the-classic-liberal.com/?p=28619#comment-13835 If mommy and daddy and the teachers at elementary school were teaching the kids basic decency and good manners along with the 3 R's this discussion wouldn't be necessary. When I was a little boy, my mother and all the other parents were a lot more involved in the upbringing of their offspring than parents are today. My dad never pretended to be "my friend." He was a teacher and a disciplinarian. Kids today don't have any problem detecting the hypocrisy of adults who say they are raising taxes "for the children" while at the same time making public outcry for partial-birth abortion of the very children they claim to defend. We've got what we've got; all the billions of us in every land; striving like unruly children in a big sandbox; achieving on rare occasion great things in acts of compassion or inspiration; but mostly hurting one-another again and again. It's the paradoxical Good and Evil world; the cosmos of the moment. Welcome home. If mommy and daddy and the teachers at elementary school were teaching the kids basic decency and good manners along with the 3 R's this discussion wouldn't be necessary. When I was a little boy, my mother and all the other parents were a lot more involved in the upbringing of their offspring than parents are today. My dad never pretended to be "my friend." He was a teacher and a disciplinarian.

Kids today don't have any problem detecting the hypocrisy of adults who say they are raising taxes "for the children" while at the same time making public outcry for partial-birth abortion of the very children they claim to defend.

We've got what we've got; all the billions of us in every land; striving like unruly children in a big sandbox; achieving on rare occasion great things in acts of compassion or inspiration; but mostly hurting one-another again and again. It's the paradoxical Good and Evil world; the cosmos of the moment.

Welcome home.

]]> By: Tracy Coyle http://the-classic-liberal.com/conservative-libertarian-culture-fusionism/comment-page-1/#comment-11545 Tracy Coyle Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:20:13 +0000 http://the-classic-liberal.com/?p=28619#comment-11545 The obvious point: if moral restrictions are important to you, by all means, adhere to those moral restrictions - don't use the State to impose them on me. When conservatives talk about maintaining societal institutions they seem (to many) to mean use the State to do so. The author repeats the 'moderate view' that institutions can change, but only very slowly and at the margins. Of course gay marriage leaves 99% of traditional couples with traditional marriage. It seems traditionalists think one gay marriage ruins the entire batch. The fact that society might have an interest in an institution does not mean the STATE has a similar interest. Nor should it. YOU do not need the state to enforce your morality upon yourself (well, some might!)..... The obvious point: if moral restrictions are important to you, by all means, adhere to those moral restrictions - don't use the State to impose them on me. When conservatives talk about maintaining societal institutions they seem (to many) to mean use the State to do so. The author repeats the 'moderate view' that institutions can change, but only very slowly and at the margins. Of course gay marriage leaves 99% of traditional couples with traditional marriage. It seems traditionalists think one gay marriage ruins the entire batch.

The fact that society might have an interest in an institution does not mean the STATE has a similar interest. Nor should it. YOU do not need the state to enforce your morality upon yourself (well, some might!).....

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