Comments on: The Great Conservative Divide http://the-classic-liberal.com/great-conservative-divide/ Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:21:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: theCL http://the-classic-liberal.com/great-conservative-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-342 theCL Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:40:10 +0000 http://the-classic-liberal.com/?p=3644#comment-342 John, I can't say I disagree with you in regard to the Republican Party, but I don't believe conservatism and the party are the same thing. Conservatism is a philosophy, where the Republican Party is nothing but a political machine. Despite being a registered-Republican since my 18th birthday, I no longer consider myself a Republican. I'm conservative as defined by Goldwater, a classic liberal as defined by our founders, or perhaps libertarian as defined by Rothbard. It's within those 3 labels that I fit most comfortably. But Republican ... that's an entirely different animal. Thanks for stopping by and contributing to the conversation. I appreciate the thought you put into your comment, and hope you continue to comment here more often ... whether we agree or disagree ... because you and I are on the same side. I believe conservatives (as in "we the people") of all stripes, and libertarians who are committed to freedom and property rights, need to focus on our common ground, so we can find a way to defeat this statist Democratic agenda (and their Republican cohorts) ... and if it's too late already ... I'd rather go down fighting, than throw in the towel. John,

I can’t say I disagree with you in regard to the Republican Party, but I don’t believe conservatism and the party are the same thing. Conservatism is a philosophy, where the Republican Party is nothing but a political machine.

Despite being a registered-Republican since my 18th birthday, I no longer consider myself a Republican. I’m conservative as defined by Goldwater, a classic liberal as defined by our founders, or perhaps libertarian as defined by Rothbard. It’s within those 3 labels that I fit most comfortably.

But Republican … that’s an entirely different animal.

Thanks for stopping by and contributing to the conversation. I appreciate the thought you put into your comment, and hope you continue to comment here more often … whether we agree or disagree … because you and I are on the same side.

I believe conservatives (as in “we the people”) of all stripes, and libertarians who are committed to freedom and property rights, need to focus on our common ground, so we can find a way to defeat this statist Democratic agenda (and their Republican cohorts) … and if it’s too late already … I’d rather go down fighting, than throw in the towel.

]]> By: John Lofton, Recovering Republican http://the-classic-liberal.com/great-conservative-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-339 John Lofton, Recovering Republican Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:10:53 +0000 http://the-classic-liberal.com/?p=3644#comment-339 Forget, please, "conservatism." It has been, operationally, de facto, Godless and therefore irrelevant. Secular conservatism will not defeat secular liberalism because to God both are two atheistic peas-in-a-pod and thus predestined to failure. As Stonewall Jackson's Chief of Staff R.L. Dabney said of such a humanistic belief more than 100 years ago: "[Secular conservatism] is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today .one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt bath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted? Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth." Our country is collapsing because we have turned our back on God (Psalm 9:17) and refused to kiss His Son (Psalm 2). John Lofton, Editor, TheAmericanView.com Recovering Republican JLof@aol.com PS -- And Limbaugh has never made a bigger ass of himself than at CPAC telling that blasphemous "joke" about himself and God. Forget, please, “conservatism.” It has been, operationally, de facto, Godless and therefore irrelevant. Secular conservatism will not defeat secular liberalism because to God both are two atheistic peas-in-a-pod and thus predestined to failure. As Stonewall Jackson’s Chief of Staff R.L. Dabney said of such a humanistic belief more than 100 years ago:

“[Secular conservatism] is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today .one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt bath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted? Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth.”

Our country is collapsing because we have turned our back on God (Psalm 9:17) and refused to kiss His Son (Psalm 2).

John Lofton, Editor, TheAmericanView.com
Recovering Republican
JLof@aol.com

PS — And Limbaugh has never made a bigger ass of himself than at CPAC telling that blasphemous “joke” about himself and God.

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